Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

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Frank818
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Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

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Hello guys,

Recently discovered Axiom, coming from the MegaSquirt world like some here probably are. Love the idea of taking the MS concept to the next level as a clean-sheet top tier product — and if you know MS, the software feels familiar right away. :)

Cool to see I am member #20! My car is a Factory Five 818S with a turbocharged VW VR6 12v and fully custom wiring harness built for this precise car. Currently troubleshooting a cranking/sync issue, but long-term I'm very interested in Axiom as an upgrade path. Some questions/comments below — no rush on answers, and hopefully some of this is useful feedback too:

Technical:
  • Do the DBW outputs drive the throttle body motor directly (half-bridge), or is an external DBW controller still required?
  • For coil packs like MSD-8224, is an external high-current driver still required (same as MS), or can the spark outputs drive them directly? If they cannot drive them directly, what's the reasoning (cost, accuracy, flexibility, relevance)? No strong opinion either way, just curious about the design tradeoff.
  • What chip/strategy handles Crank and Cam signal conditioning — adaptive threshold or fixed threshold? What was the reasoning to select one over the other?
  • How does it handle LC ringing near or at the gap tooth on VR signals — is the adaptive threshold (if equipped with) tolerant of that, or does ringing risk false triggers?
  • I noticed shunt options selectable in the software for the VR/Hall inputs — what's the input capacitance/impedance these are working against, and is there any onboard clamping (TVS or similar) on these inputs as well?
  • Same edge-polarity behavior as MS (i.e., signal inversion such that a clean falling edge on the scope means selecting Rising Edge in software)?
  • Out of curiosity, has anyone run a 60-2 wheel (or maybe 36-1) with a high-output VR sensor (like 800Ω+ class)? If yes, any sync issues at 4000+RPM, or has that combo been clean across the board?
  • What overvoltage/clamping protection exists on the inputs — both for normal high-RPM VR signal levels and edge cases like a disconnected ground or main ground feeding voltage back into a signal pin?
  • I recall reading about a built-in oscilloscope feature — if I was not mistaken about its existence, is that a true raw-signal capture at the ADC front end (pre-processing), like an external scope would show?
  • For the integrated wideband O2 controllers — can the signal feed an external gauge/display, or ECU-only?
  • No onboard MAP sensor, correct? — I don't see a barb fitting on the case. If that's right, what's the reasoning (cost, accuracy, flexibility, relevance)? I don't mind, mostly curious.
  • GPS input is supported but there's no onboard GPS module, correct?


UI/software feedback (Linux build):
  • At the moment, how can one mimic a composite/tooth logger?
  • The "+" button next to the Home tab doesn't appear to do anything.
  • Widening the left sidebar via the drag separator snaps back to default width.
  • Projects save to

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    ~/Documents/AxiomEFI/
    with no apparent option to choose a different folder.
  • Pure-text sidebar navigation makes it easy to click a parent menu vs. a sub-item by mistake — could be tricky for in-car tuning, especially on a topless/no-windows car in direct sunlight.
  • Expanded sidebar menus push everything else down, so the main menu structure scrolls out of view — hard to keep the big picture while navigating, unlike when using buttons.
  • Long-term UI vision for the dashboard sidebar — staying as a list of live values, or eventually supporting gauges, custom layouts, high/low alerts, etc.?
  • And please keep the Linux build alive. :)

Thanks!
Frank
1992 VR6 2.9L turbo in the back of a kit car
Prof315
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Re: Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

Post by Prof315 »

Let me answer the technical questions that I can.

The half bridge outputs can directly control a DBW throttle (or Egate) with no external controller needed. Dual throttle is supported and there is an autocalibration procedure for the throttle itself that works very well indeed.
The half bridge outputs can also be used for low or high side drivers.
Ignition drivers are logic level so an external high current driver is needed for "dumb coils". The developers will have to chime in on the reason.
I don't know all the technical details on the Crank and Cam inputs , Maxx 99xx series I believe.
I have used falling edge input for all Cam and crank inputs. That is the recommended setting.
I have a 2009 BMW M3 with the 4.0L S65 up and running on Axiom. It uses a 60-2 VR for crank input. I had to turn on the shunt resistor above 2000 RPMs but with that active the car revs cleanly to 8500 RPMs.
More technical details I am not sure of.
The Crank/Cam and Tach Scope show processed signals not sure about the analog scope as I haven't used it yet.
O2 signal is ECU only but O2 data can be displayed on any CAN based dash or gauge as well as in the tuning software.
No onboard GPS but there are onboard accelerometers.

Linux UI stuff.

Crank/Cam and Tach scope both show information similar to the composite/tooth logger.
"+" button is for adding new panels. But Edit panels must be active first. There are some prebuilt panels available and you can also create custom panels to save and export/import between projects if desired. This is where gauges can be added and displayed.
Work in progress
At present no options to choose a different project location.
Menu navigation is easiest and least cluttered using the search feature. Again work in progress.
The dashboard sidebar will likely stay a list of live values it can be customized. As mentioned above Panels are for gauges , indicators and the like.

The Linux build isn't going anywhere. The devs and I all use Linux (Win 11 caused me to make the move)
Jeff Linfert
Linfert Performance/Axiom EFI
Frank818
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Re: Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

Post by Frank818 »

Thanks for your time.
Prof315 wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 1:32 pm I have used falling edge input for all Cam and crank inputs. That is the recommended setting.
On MS3 Rising Edge works best for me. So with Axiom we have to flip it around and follow the true signal edge?
Prof315 wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 1:32 pm "+" button is for adding new panels. But Edit panels must be active first. There are some prebuilt panels available and you can also create custom panels to save and export/import between projects if desired. This is where gauges can be added and displayed.
Got it. Yes seems pretty cool to have a bunch of specific panels with tuning menus in them as well as gauges.
Prof315 wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 1:32 pm Menu navigation is easiest and least cluttered using the search feature. Again work in progress.
At the moment the search field lags a few seconds before anything is displayed, but WIP, perfectly understandable.


A similar question to the one I posted in the Dyno Graphs thread (viewtopic.php?t=4), but this time in one of your Shorts (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vDb6aoARbTY), you (or that guy) mention that "...starts are noticeably improved." wrt to MS from where the car comes from.
Can you define "improved"?
Do you mean it fires up faster? Or more stable to maintain RPM after start? Or something else.
Frank
1992 VR6 2.9L turbo in the back of a kit car
Prof315
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Re: Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

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Noticeably improved starts has been the engine catching quicker on start, CL idle control works better and the step O2 correction can get you on target with a stable idle faster than I was with the previous ECU. (in general I did not use O2 correction at idle with the old ecu.)
Jeff Linfert
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Frank818
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Re: Newcomer from MS world — questions + some Linux UI feedback

Post by Frank818 »

Oh that's excellent stuff!

Thanks
Frank
1992 VR6 2.9L turbo in the back of a kit car
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